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birx, fauci and redfield all signing off on the guidelines. as seven midwestern governors have announced a partnership to reopen the regional economy. meanwhile, the economy getting pummeled by a brutal new jobs report today, more than 5 million americans filing for benefits just last week. that means over 22 million jobs have been lost in the past mon month. the president pledging to restore the economy back at full speed. >> also be leading a call with elected confessional -- official consult with my administration as we look to restore the economy to full speed. and we think with all the stimulus and pent-up demand, we will have an economy that really comes back quickly. and would like to see it more than match what we have before. what we had before was a miracle, and we think that this will be more of a miracle. we are going to do it because we have the greatest people in the

world. >> juan: i was curious about what you thought about reopening. given that we don't have a testing rigorous regime in place at the moment, what do you think about this? >> dana: if you look back even thursday. i think it was monday that there was a lot of sort of discussion and debate about who has the authority to reopen the economy. the president, the governors, et cetera. and what you see by thursday is that the governors are working well and can coordination and conjunction. and to the president is giving them guidelines and suggestions. we will be here to help you if you need it. and the testing thing, i'm going to set that aside. because i think it is separate. these regional packs that you will see that are bipartisan, they are happening on the now in and you have the northeast. i they make they are trying to a one-size-fits-all approach. i think all of that shows that

people can start to lift their gaze a little bit and see that there is going to be light at the end of the tunnel, and that they are not going to be under some one-size-fits-all approach, because we all know that doesn't make sense and that that won't happen. on the jobs numbers, i want to mention, 22 million people filing for unemployment. that is overwhelming, right? and you have to think that each of those people has a family. so you extrapolate that out, and it is millions of people who are impacted by this economically. and i think it is atrocious that you have the democrats who are resisting refilling the small business loan fund. it is out of money. as of yesterday. out of money. they are not back in session until next monday. think about how many days that is as a small business person. you did not get your loan, and how long those five days are going to feel for you. until congress figures out a way to get past this and pass and get it done. that is really, should be an

absolute priority. and i think the president if he can put his shoulder behind and push them, he should press this. >> juan: they will have to negotiate and do this urgently. greg, i wanted to come back to the whole notion of reopening, because so much of it has to do with trust. you can say things will reopen, but for you and me, are we going to like get back to a restaurant or get on a plane, or decide we are going to stay at a hotel if we are not quite sure and our hearts that we are safe? >> greg: i go back to what i said before. i think we are willing at this point to take that risk. because we kind of -- we all kind of are alike in getting that feeling. you know what, we are doing the best we can, but right now, maybe it is time that we started -- as dana would say, lifting our gaze.

i've never heard it before. it's very nice. we have to leave the vulnerable at home. if the older people with underlining conditions, if they are at home, the younger, the healthier people, the people can go back to work. i do love how all of this is now governor -lead. and it makes me think that trump just pulled a tom sawyer painting defense stunned. when he said i am in control and said no, no, no you don't. okay, you guys call the shots. so it is interesting is the governors have skin in this game. and it is really important, when you are criticizing the commander in chief or anybody, that you have skin in the game. because it changes and alters the way that you criticize. because basically, you could be held responsible. lastly, it will be a challenge to tabulate. you can count the deaths by a virus, but you have a hard time counting the casualties of a shut down. whether it is suicide, failed businesses, whole hopelessness,e

unemployment numbers could end up killing as many people as the virus. but the problem is we can't count that. it's to an orifice and anonymous. that will be a challenge for a lot of people, they will not be able to see the invisible death. >> juan: that's a good point. jesse, let's speak to that point, because i think that you have a situation now where people are saying that we want to get back to work. we have these record unemployment figures, but at the same time if we reopen too quickly, it could damage the economy, because if there is a second wave or peeking in terms of the curve, that will crater the economy once more. >> jesse: it's like when you go underwater and hold your breath. if you keep holding your breath, you will sustain brain damage or you will drowned. you can tell the country is ready to stop holding its breath and get above water and get a gasp of air, because if you keep

staying underwater, you have seen depression level economic jobs losses. in just one month alone. this country's not going to make it to may 1st. and that's why you see some states are going to have to open in phases. from what i understand about the plan, it is a 3-phase plan. before you start phase one, a state has to demonstrate a 2-week downward trajectory on cases. it has to have robust health care performance, and it has to have robust testing among the front-line workers. only then can get into phase one. and phase one is just limited amounts of people going back to work. phase two, you open up bars and restaurants, and that is only with limited capacity seating and social distancing. and they suggest nonessential travel, kind of really be curtailed. only until phase three, have

schools and camps and things like that in large events, and social distancing. because right now, i don't know. you can feel this country getting angry. and it's not just at the chine chinese. they are getting angry at the governors. they are not allowed to go to church. they don't have freedom of association. they can't pursue happiness. this is getting pretty ugly. and we can't take it anymore. >> juan: i think you have to understand, we are dealing with a virus. by katie, speaking to that point again. when you are asking people, when you are asking people to listen to the government and reopen, people will say, oh, didn't it people say that it was just like the flu? didn't they say that it was going to disappear quickly, why should i listen to them this time?

>> katie: people are not super worried about what we have been through, people want their leaders to make right decisions so that they can get back to work and provide for their families. to the protests in michigan are an interesting experiment about what you will see around the country. because as jesse said, when people feel continually that they are pushed in a corner and continually told that they are not essential when they are looking at their kids and not stocking their freezer full of 13 been ice cream like nancy pelosi in san francisco and on a tighter budget than they were before, and they are worried about what the next two months will look like for theiry essential. and it feels just as suffocating and serious and threatening to them and to their livelihood as getting sick from the virus does. so there has to be a balance with these governors, not overstating their bounds. and not telling people that they cannot grow their own food as a governor in michigan has done by banning the buying of seeds.

if you overstep those boundaries, you're going to have a revolt. and americans are smart. they have done very well at being cooperative throughout the process. but there will come a time when they are not willing to trade the nonfreedom that they now have, and pushing the rights away for some kind of security that they feel they have given up already. >> juan: katie, do you have any sense, the governor of new york said may 15th or 14th, do you think that is reasonable? >> katie: i think that the president will probably lay out a plan today. and as dana said, it will be case by region by region. we will have to wait and see. >> juan: all right. coming up. a shocking report on the possible origins of the coronavirus. stay tuned to "the five" for that important story. ♪

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the u.s. intelligence that the deadly virus escape from a lab in wuhan after sloppy handling." china pushing back saying there is no direct evidence the lab was involved. the sources also adding that the world health organization helped china cover it all up. katie, let me go to you first about this development. and i guess it helps, this has been out there. but it helps pin the tail on the donkey here about where this would have come from. and what the importance is that it was not intentional, apparently. >> katie: as far as we know, the pentagon says that they are still looking into that, but they do say on the record that they believe it is natural. now tom cotton has been floating the theory for months now, and "the washington post" called him a conspiracy theorist who was peddling something very dangerous. now we have state department cables and also evidence out of china that this is likely what

happened. why would china not allow the cdc into the labs to take a look at what was going on. why did they destroy evidence. why did they get rid of a number of people working in the labs? did it come from the lab? and one thing that will be the bigger question moving forward is are we going to take china seriously when it comes to them stealing our information in america by working in labs here and going back to china. it is part of bret baier's reporting that the lab was trying to work on competing with americans. they have been in our university is. they tried to build and bar chinese literary services from working in american labs. do you think that that would be something that we would not want going on. the visa program for chinese students is riddled with spies who come here and steal information from phd programs. harvard, that professor was arrested in january who was a top chemist at harvard who was working with the wuhan lab. so this is a bigger box of

issues that is fun have to be addressed. i'm not surprised at all that this is where it is going. >> dana: juan, there was reporting that health officials had raised concerns about this particular lab and the sloppiness by which the workers, the scientists there were not following proper protocols. this is going back even a few years ago. >> juan: yeah, so what you have is a situation that is plausible. i think that is your point. we have every reason to say, this could be the case. and again, to reiterate what katie just said, it's not that they created it, but they were sloppy in their handling of a virus that was competing with the u.s. saying, we can handle viruses and the like. as to my mind, what you get is a situation where the real and provable thing is that china covered it up. that's what it strikes me, let's not get away from the fact that they are culpable for having worsened the situation.

and one other point, i would say, why are we going after the w.h.o., when we should be going after china? but finally, none of this it seems to me mitigates the idea that our own government was slow to respond, and that we have to deal with sort of what's right here in front of us at the moment, which is a slow response has put us in a situation where we have been in lockdown and we see the climate of unemployment numbers. >> dana: let me talk about china and what this brought to. we were talking about the unemployment numbers, and it's not just here in the united states, of course, all over the world, there is a huge impact. and what shorter price -- sort of pressured china have to pay for that? >> greg: the lab has one job. it's like the occupational version of las vegas. you know, what happens in the lab stays in the lab. that's the only thing required to do. if you can't keep that stuff in

the lab, then you are not a lab. you are everybody else. i'm going to let juan's light go by about how we said we were not prepared or what ever. because that is b.s. and we have gone over that. the big issue here is that he -- >> juan: what? >> greg: the media always labels people as conspiracists when people ask questions that they are too scared to ask, right? they always apply this weird peer pressure on what is acceptable as a question. and that causes a delayed response, because nobody wanted to hear about shutting down travel, right? nobody wanted to hear about talking about chinese cultural practices that might lead to disease, i.e. the wet market. the most vital questions that needed to be asked including the origins of the pandemic were sacrificed for gossip, chatter, and finger-pointing. oh, we were too late. we do not act fast enough. to the problem is, it is not a

top media narrative for our press. to the media is like every single law and order episode. the villain has to be the rich american socialite, or they will kill the script. so they were not interested in the fact that china was the villain or it came from the lab, because that is a foreign villain. it is not trump or america, which is why juan had to go back and stayed the response was slow, because he was not content with it being china's fault. >> dana: there were journalists from "the new york times," "the washington post" that were kicked out of china for reporting on this. and they were basically told that they had to leave the country. >> jesse: yeah, i had a viral expert on my show last weekend, and he spoke about this theory. and the media said that he was a conspiracy theorist. to greg's point, it is a theory. it's not a conspiracy. and now it looks pretty accurate.

he said the chinese in this lab were conducting such dangerous and risky research on this virus in a city next to 15 million people in a sloppy lab with the bad protocols, that the u.s. had to actually pull out of their collaboration. he says this is gross medical malpractice. it's extremely reckless. and it was made worse by the communist government. think about it this way. and i will speak to juan on this, imagine if exxonmobil was doing some sort of chemical research at a facility and cutting corners in order to save a buck, and the thing got loose and ended up killing tens of thousands of people and taking $1 trillion out of the u.s. economy, and exxonmobil covered it up, and the trump administration then covered it up and pushed a propaganda plan to cover it up. and if that was uncovered, exxonmobil would be bankrupt. they would be paying billions in

settlements. and donald trump would be hauled in front of the hague for war crimes. that's how serious this is. but everyone's going soft on china and the media, like they can't talk about it. let's be honest about what happened and not be scared to tell the truth. >> dana: all right. good talk, guys. next up on "the five," joe biden trying to perform a shadow government in his battle against president trump? we will talk about it next. ♪ it's best we stay apart for a bit, but you're not alone. we're automatically refunding our customers a portion of their personal auto premiums. learn more at libertymutual.com/covid-19. [ piano playing ]

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to counter the president during this crisis. >> do they need to do it in a bigger way? what did you just call it? the president's daily clown show, that's his press briefing. should joe biden be counter programming that? should he be creating his own chatter government, shadow cabinet, shadow s.w.a.t. team and getting there at a podium every night and saying, here is a crisis, here is what we need to do to address this? >> jesse: here is sleepy joe's latest attack on trump's leadership. because these are people who are frightened and are looking for leadership. what bothers me is that the president of the united states does not take responsibility. the president of the united states acts like this is not -- nothing is his fault. nothing is his responsibility. >> jesse: dana, i'm not really sure who that was on msnbc. i don't think she was a prime time host, because i have

never seen her in prime time before, so she should not be given that much of an opinion, i guess she is during the day or something. that seems a little out-of-bounds in my opinion. what do you think? >> dana: jesse! regardless of what our she is on, it is such a bad idea. it is such a bad idea. it's so terrible. we just spent a week and a half talking about how there is confusion about whether the federal government or the governors are going to reopen the economy. and now we all agree, okay, there is collaboration and the governors help make decisions based on guidelines from the federal government. i understand that joe biden is in a bind. that's bad. but what she is suggesting, one, it is a terrible idea if you are a patriotic american, because it cannot have two presidents at the same time. you have one president at a time. i'm sorry that they are in this predicament where they had to campaign during a pandemic, but that's the situation they are in. this is like what i used to do

with my sister when i got home from school after i had an after-school snack. i would make her play school with me. and this is like playing government. you don't to do this. it's like make-believe. and i think it makes terrible, terrible flooding for joe biden. >> jesse: you played school and greg gutfeld probably played doctor. what do you think, greg? >> greg: i think i saw that joke coming like a frisbee in the desert. 10 miles away. what i find interesting is that joe is in the shadows. that's what is so funny about the commentary. here's the thing. nobody, joe, nancy, chuck, liz, aoc, nobody can answer the question, what would you do differently than donald trump? what would you do when? when would you start the economy? how would you do it?

they don't, they can't say it. because they know that they have a 50% chance of being wrong. so they are petrified of actually raising their hand and going, oh, i have an idea. let's do it now. so they are not going to step forward. what they will do is wait for president trump to flip the switch, or the dimmer, and any collateral damage that there is, then they will leap forward and they will go half, we would not have done that. no surgery, we would not have done that. you did that too late or you did not do enough. or you are an auto cracked, or you did not take control, but they will not tell you when they are going to start or how they are going to start, because they are too scared of being wrong. >> jesse: you are right, because biden stuck his neck out early on the travel ban, and he was dead wrong. juan, grade joe biden's i guess performance in this quarantine campaign? would you give him an aa, of b,

c? and why would you give him that grade? >> juan: i think in biden's case, it's a matter of getting in public and not allowing the virus, which has changed. the whole campaign landscape definitely for everybody on either side here, not allowing himself to be pushed out of any spotlight because he is not campaigning. so what you get is, he is now on tv more than ever, and of course, he is doing those live streams from his basement in delaware somewhere. he has been on a lot of tv. and as i mentioned, the streaming efforts that are going out has gotten much better in terms of the grade, i would say initially not so good, now pretty good. but he is up against president trump who has a daily press briefing that as the president likes to say, on par with "bachelor" finale and monday night football. to answer this question, you have i think everyone i have met who has run for president thinks

that they are about to win. if you are going to win in this environment, you better have a plan. and i don't think there is any reason that he should not be saying to the american people, here is how i would be dealing with it. and i think that he has been pretty clear, and i think others have said so as well, we need to do a better job when it comes to testing in this country, providing supplies to our medical workers, making sure that you know, the bank, the computers don't get all screwed up when we try to deliver stimulus checks to our workers. these are legitimate criticisms of this administration, and he has to be able to say, i would do a better job. >> jesse: maybe he can ask liz warren to have a little help with the plan. she now wants to be his vp. >> katie: that is true, but do we really think that joe biden is capable of running a shadow government, he can hardly run his own interviews when he is getting -- he can hardly figure out what day it is at this point.

there's no way he could run a shadow government, i'm sure that the communist party of china would love for joe biden to start doing something like that, considering he has been lax on chan dam in china, sympathetic, his son has business ties to china, which may still be there, he was against the travel ban and allowing people to go in anf the country while the virus was spreading. i'm sure that today would love for him to continue the work of the world health organization covering for china on this iss issue. >> jesse: and he still needs to learn how to cough into his elbow. coming up next, getting life back to normal, how professional sports could make a comeback during the lockdown. ♪ hey whoa, pop, pop... we always take care of the ones we love,

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♪ >> katie: as the white house prepares to reopen the economy, the world of professional sports having a similar conversation. unfortunately, if you live on the west coast, the mayor of los angeles says that to large gatherings like sporting events and concerts will not be allowed until 2021. but there could be other options on the horizon. the nfl has discussed playing in empty or half full stadiums which aligns with what dr. anthony fauci has been saying about how sports can make a comeback. >> there is a way of doing that. nobody comes to the stadium. put them in big hotels, wherever you want to play, keep them very well surveilled, and surveillance, but have them tested every week and make sure they don't wind up infecting each other or their family and just let them play the season out. >> katie: all right, jesse,

you have been trying to save the football season, what are your thoughts? >> jesse: this is a no-brainer, your resume sports immediately. you test everyone, the coaches, the players, and the referees, and you don't play in front of a crowd. people need to start gambling again. people need to start watching sports on tv. i'm even okay with sports competing against "watters' world" on a saturday night at 8:00. i'm willing to make the sacrifice for the good of the country. we are talking about golf. you don't touch anybody in golf, tennis, social distance all the way across the court. football does not start camp until august. race car driving. there is no contact that they are. let's play baseball. i think basketball, the worst part, you can get infected as may locker room. let's get this thing going! >> katie: [laughs] juan, will we ever be able to watch a nationals game together again? >> juan: i pray.

oh, katie, you know i wanted so bad. i noticed that mark zuckerberg, whenever a great business leaders in this country said that his company is not going to have any meetings with more than 50 people until june of next year. 2021, so that is a private company that is going to lose money making a decision on his own. and i think -- when i think about going to the game with you are hanging out. i think, boy, i would not want to see any other players getting infected or hospitalized or die, and i think that it would be very painful for all of us not only as fans, but americans. so you have to be cautious, but i would love to see a game. >> katie: me too. dana, are sports expert, do you have any analogies for us? >> dana: i do, and my sister is in denver. and denver broncos fan, they have season tickets. the other night i was talking to

her, and i called in the middle of, i did not text before hand, i said what are you doing? and she said, we are watching this game between the broncos and some other team from 2009. why are you doing that? but that's what big sports fans have been doing. they have been going back and re-watching games from before, because there is a hunger for it. plus just economically, you think of just how many things happen around sports, tickets, the concessions. and you think then about the people who are working those concession stands. i mean, to me, that's why i would love to see everything get back to normal, because a lot of people are making their livings and taking care of their families and contribute into society because they are working in and around sports. >> katie: and some of the team owners are paying those people, they are turning stadiums into food places, food kitchens. but greg, what are your thoughts on this? >> greg: sports, i mean, it is

one facet of actually the bigger, the bigger issue here. and that is any kind of mass gathering, whether it is concerts, comedy shows, comedy clubs, restaurants, and bars have people too. we are going to eliminate an entire industry of life events. i was planning on seeing king bozo from the melvin's, and the acoustic tour. i probably won't be able to. i have two shows in august. i don't think i will be doing them. but i want to defend, because we are talking about athletes, they are pretty wealthy. people in the media do pretty well. bands, bands are not millionaires. they travel in a van. almost all vans are in a -- bands are in a van, most comedians are not rich. most comedians are sleeping on other people's couches. then you look at restaurants and bars with razor-thin margins. it's easy for people in entertainment to say, let's heed

the experts, but these are all of these people that don't have that luxury. and they are all getting screwed. that is the professional athletes and their 12 bedroom mansions with their deluxe fridges, anyway. i'm done. >> katie: i know that you have a brand-new guitar, so i'm looking forward to your youtube channel. >> greg: bass guitar, i'm a misfit. >> katie: straight ahead, on lockdown, the trend sweeping america, thanks to zoom. ♪ ♪ for a fingerstick. with the freestyle libre 14 day system, a continuous glucose monitor, you don't have to. with a painless, one-second scan you can check your glucose with a smart phone or reader so you can stay in the moment. no matter where you are or what you're doing. ask your doctor for a prescription for the freestyle libre 14 day system.

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♪ >> greg: welcome back. videoconferencing abby zuma is delivering relationship news to star-crossed lovers. it's called zumping. unceremoniously dumping your significant other on the platform so that you can social distance yourself forever. if that's not all the mayhem zoom has to offer, people are paying money to get into virtual nightclubs. that sounds pathetic. and as you know, animals are

great, so a farm is charging 60 bucks to invite a mama or goat to your next digital work meeting. that sounds interesting to have a goat at your meeting. is this one of those trends that board editors come up with? or is this real? >> dana: i think they're breaking up thing on zoom is probably real. i would assume that if you can't see anybody and you are not into that person in the first place, if you are polite, you would maybe want to do it over zoom so that you could have a face-to-face conversation. i also love the idea of the innovation of these farmers suggesting that you can have a llama for $65 in the background of your zoom. it's a whole new industry. >> greg: in the background, not the backseat. we don't go for that here.

as you know, my favorite tv show "sex and the city" carrie was dumped by post-it note, do you remember that? >> jesse: no, greg, i did not watch "in the city." >> greg: were you watching "entourage?" >> jesse: no, i watched sports. if you can get away with just doing a monologue like no one will realize what just happened. i want everybody in america to focus on one thing, greg didn't do a monologue today. so what were you doing that you were so busy that you could not do a monologue? >> greg: i was doing charity work with the orphans. juan, would you zoom with a llama? >> juan: i was reading about it for this segment, and it seems like people think they are

comfort animals, it's just fun. somebody should call jasper, he could get a big job all of a sudden. but what are the options? you break up with someone these days but that's a bad one, okay, okay. the options these days are texting, video, phone call, and with the coronavirus, i guess the best option would be zoom. you can't stand on the street corner and scream at them. >> greg: katie, hundreds of employees for zoom live in china, couldn't they be compromised by the chinese government, and then they can listen in on our meetings and see what kind of animals we like and then perhaps invade us to mark >> dana: [laughs] >> katie: i saw a report that china mixed a monkey and a pig. so that's weird. i think that zumping is better than ghosting. isn't it better than just leaving someone hanging? i don't know. it's probably good. >> greg: i guess we will end

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[squawks] only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ ♪ >> juan: happiness, the five gets to do "one more thing" today. how do you get the "sesame street"? we can't tell you because everyone is staying home due to the coronavirus and that's also the case on "sesame street," take a look at how we are dealing with being unable to get together with her neighborhood friends. >> oh, look. i can make myself look like a bunny rabbit. >> juan: those tapes came from a "sesame street" special that

aired this week on how children are dealing with being at home and with the fear they feel surrounding the virus. in addition, elmo, cookie monster, grover were joined by celebrities lin-manuel miranda and anne hathaway, this is an example of america helping each other as we get through this crisis together. >> greg: let's do this. ♪ animals are great ♪ animals are great we got two this time, these are special food addition. look at this poor dog watching this groundhog eating a slice of pizza, he's social distancing -- life is so unfair. look at that groundhog taunting him. i'm hungry now for pizza. groundhog pizza would be delicious. this is what happens when you

fill a cup full of whipped cream -- this fellow shows up. there he is. let's see that again, you fill up that cup and what happens? what happens? there he is. anyway, i'm done. >> jesse: my "one more thing" has no redeeming value, my mom is going to be very angry. you know those roundabouts they have mostly in europe? this guy in poland couldn't figure it out, he drove right through it. it's not a polish joke, it just happened to be in poland. the guy is fine, he's not injured, he's recovering in the hospital but that's one way to do a round about, probably not the smartest way but whatever. >> juan: wow. dana, one more thing. >> dana: i love yours, i'd

love "sesame street," i love everybody's today. i want to say happy birthday to my dad, birthday today, and also i've been dying to show you this, there is a texas couple and they are using the hit show tiger king to have a little more fun. they have a question right there on their door and it says "did the carol bascom kill her husband?" the amazon delivery people, whether they are voting no, big yes. >> jeremy tuck did not like atlanta's stay-at-home order prevent him from taking his family to this kind of restaurant, take a look. [clatter]

jeremy's two sons both love hibachi and they go for their birthdays, unfortunately the virus cap the men, they did it at home. >> juan: set your dvrs, never miss an episode of the five. >> bret: good evening and welcome to washington, i'm bret baier. we are awaiting the start of the daily coronavirus task force briefing at the white house, we will bring you there when it begins. we expect to learn details of president trump's plans to reopen the u.s. economy after a month long shutdown over the coronavirus outbreak. this strategy reveal comes after another week of huge job losses and new filings for unemployment benefits. there is controversy over congressional democrats refusing to approve more funding for small businesses and where that goes from here, chief white house correspondent john roberts starts us